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Richard G. Scott, Mormon Apostle, stated that abused victims are responsible for being abused.
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Richard G. Scott - Mormon Apostle - Claims Victims Share A Degree Of Responsibility In Being Abused Wednesday, Dec 14, 2005, at 11:15 AM Original Author(s): Non Sequitur Topic: RICHARD G. SCOTT -Link To MC Article- | ↑ | I don't know why, in the thread about the pregnant, unmarried daughter, when the discussion turned to whether or not a rape victim should bear any of the "blame" for the act of violence, anyone should doubt that the teaching of "guilt" for abuse victims originates with teachings of Latter-day apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ through inspiration directly from the Holy Ghost!
Seriously, just read the wonderful talk given by Richard G. Scott in April 1992 conference titled Healing the Tragic Scars of Abuse.
In this talk are found wonderful, Christ-like words of wisdom such as:
"Unless healed by the Lord, mental, physical, or sexual abuse can cause you serious, enduring consequences. As a victim you have experienced some of them.:
"I solemnly testify that when another’s acts of violence, perversion, or incest hurt you terribly, against your will, you are not responsible and you must not feel guilty."
Sounds good so far...
"Talk to your bishop in confidence. His calling allows him to act as an instrument of the Lord in your behalf. He can provide a doctrinal foundation to guide you to recovery. An understanding and application of eternal law will provide the healing you require. He has the right to be inspired of the Lord in your behalf. He can use the priesthood to bless you."
Hmmm... Why can't God just talk to me directly?
"Most often, the victim is innocent because of being disabled by fear or the power or authority of the offender. At some point in time, however, the Lord may prompt a victim to recognize a degree of responsibility for abuse. Your priesthood leader will help assess your responsibility so that, if needed, it can be addressed. Otherwise the seeds of guilt will remain and sprout into bitter fruit. Yet no matter what degree of responsibility, from absolutely none to increasing consent, the healing power of the atonement of Jesus Christ can provide a complete cure. (See DandC 138:1–4.) Forgiveness can be obtained for all involved in abuse. (See A of F 1:3.) Then comes a restoration of self-respect, self-worth, and a renewal of life."
And, as in any good talk from a Latter-day Apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ, there is the HOLY SHIT! moment.
I know what I think of this, but it still leaves me utterly speechless that this "saint" even formulated such thoughts.
| Richard G. Scott's Talk On How Abuse Victims Are Responsible "To A Degree" For Their Abuse Monday, Mar 24, 2008, at 07:14 AM Original Author(s): Tahoe Girl Topic: RICHARD G. SCOTT -Link To MC Article- | ↑ | A 4 year old doesn't do anything to deserve abuse. My sister was 2-1/2 when my father (her step-father) started sexually abusing her (my mother knew it was going on but didn't stop it) and this continued until she was 9 when my parents divorced. As a child she was on anti-depressants just so she could deal with life. In NO WAY was she responsible for what he did to her. It is a sick institution with sick people that would imply that an innocent child is in any way responsible for being sexually abused.
Here is the talk by Richard G. Scott, an "apostle of god", referred to by other posters. I HATE this man.
http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dl...
The following is archived at a different site. The author is Non Sequitur and is dated Dec. 2005:
"I don't know why, in the thread about the pregnant, unmarried daughter, when the discussion turned to whether or not a rape victim should bear any of the "blame" for the act of violence, anyone should doubt that the teaching of "guilt" for abuse victims originates with teachings of Latter-day apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ through inspiration directly from the Holy Ghost!
Seriously, just read the wonderful talk given by Richard G. Scott in April 1992 conference titled Healing the Tragic Scars of Abuse.
In this talk are found wonderful, Christ-like words of wisdom such as:
"Unless healed by the Lord, mental, physical, or sexual abuse can cause you serious, enduring consequences. As a victim you have experienced some of them.:
"I solemnly testify that when another’s acts of violence, perversion, or incest hurt you terribly, against your will, you are not responsible and you must not feel guilty."
Sounds good so far...
"Talk to your bishop in confidence. His calling allows him to act as an instrument of the Lord in your behalf. He can provide a doctrinal foundation to guide you to recovery. An understanding and application of eternal law will provide the healing you require. He has the right to be inspired of the Lord in your behalf. He can use the priesthood to bless you."
Hmmm... Why can't God just talk to me directly?
"Most often, the victim is innocent because of being disabled by fear or the power or authority of the offender. At some point in time, however, the Lord may prompt a victim to recognize a degree of responsibility for abuse. Your priesthood leader will help assess your responsibility so that, if needed, it can be addressed. Otherwise the seeds of guilt will remain and sprout into bitter fruit. Yet no matter what degree of responsibility, from absolutely none to increasing consent, the healing power of the atonement of Jesus Christ can provide a complete cure. (See DandC 138:1–4.) Forgiveness can be obtained for all involved in abuse. (See A of F 1:3.) Then comes a restoration of self-respect, self-worth, and a renewal of life."
And, as in any good talk from a Latter-day Apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ, there is the HOLY SHIT! moment.
I know what I think of this, but it still leaves me utterly speechless that this "saint" even formulated such thoughts."
| On Saturday April 5th, 2008 conference, Richard G. Scott, With a pesky cough, uses his gentle almost hypnotic approach and soothing, slow voice to deliver his message, and put me to sleep.
"It frequently causes such profound suffering that can be overcome"
"The secure healing comes from the power of the Atonement, to rectify that which is unjust"
"Victims of serious abuse have made the journey to full healing through the power of the Atonement"
"As you conscientiously study the Atonement, you can receive the same blessed relief"
"If you have been abused Satan will start to convince you that there is no solution. Satan realizes that the power of healing is inherent in the power of the Atonement of Jesus Christ. Do not let Satan convince you that you are beyond help. Satan uses your abuse to create fear. Satan will strive to alienate you from your father in heaven, with the thought that if he loved you he would have prevented the tragedy."
Boy this Satan guy sure is omnipresent, and almost omnipotent like God. Weeird?
"To preserve moral agency the Lord does not restrain individuals from the improper use of that agency."
Good, so then why do church leaders attempt to limit my agency?
"Healing may begin with a thoughtful Bishop or Stake President. Remember a full cure comes through the Savior our Lord Jesus Christ."
The hijack exemplified. If you want to access Jesus, you have to go through your local leadership. Blechh
"His perfect eternal infinite atonement can cure your suffering from the consequences of abuse."
"Get help now, do not fear."
"Predators are skillful."
Like Joseph Smith?
"All abusers will be held accountable for every unrighteous act."
Really, then why does the church protect its leaders who are perpetrators??
"To the perpetrator: Recognize that you need help with your addiction. Talk to your Bishop or Stake President."
Looks like only the local leadership can really help you, not God, or Jesus.
| Richard G. Scott Has Lost His Mind - Another Horrible Conference Talk About Abuse Monday, Apr 7, 2008, at 08:03 AM Original Author(s): Anonski22 Topic: RICHARD G. SCOTT -Link To MC Article- | ↑ | It was horrific.
The entire talk was centered around victims and perpetrators of sexual abuse.
He basically said that victims of sexual abuse, need to confide in their bishop for guidance in the healing process through repentance, so that they can draw upon Gods mercy.
Repentance for what? For being molested raped, verbally or physically abused? This is a pretty horrific view of abuse victims.
He's telling the individual that they bear a responsibility for being violated to begin with and now God wont love them until they make themselves clean.
He said that any bitterness, anger or resentment that they feel towards the ordeal and the offender is an indicator that satan has taken hold of their heart, and this must be corrected or God wont love and heal them.
The most shocking thing he said though was directed towards the abusers: He said to confess their offenses. To their bishop..so they can begin the path to repentance and avoid eternal damnation.
| "The victim must do all in his or her power to stop the abuse. Most often, the victim is innocent because of being disabled by fear or the power or authority of the offender. At some point in time, however, the Lord may prompt a victim to recognize a degree of responsibility for abuse. Your priesthood leader will help assess your responsibility so that, if needed, it can be addressed. Otherwise the seeds of guilt will remain and sprout into bitter fruit. Yet no matter what degree of responsibility, from absolutely none to increasing consent, the healing power of the atonement of Jesus Christ can provide a complete cure."
- Apostle Richard G. Scott "Healing the Tragic Scars of Abuse," General Conference, Ensign, May 1992
April 4,1992 - Apostle Richard G. Scott tells general conference that LDS women should avoid "morbid probing into details of past acts, long buried and mercifully forgotten," and that "the Lord may prompt a victim to recognize a degree of responsibility for abuse."
Among his concluding remarks: "Remember, false accusation is also a sin," and 'bury the past." Unspoken background to his remarks is that in recent years current stake presidents and temple workers have been accused of child abuse by their now adult children. Salt Lake Tribune reports that suicide prevention lines are swamped with telephone calls by women in days after Scott's remarks.
“Of course, a mature person who willingly consents to sexual relations must share responsibility for the act, even though the other participant was the aggressor. Persons who consciously invite sexual advances also have a share of responsibility for the behavior that follows. But persons who are truly forced into sexual relations are victims and are not guilty of any sexual sin."
- First Presidency Letter to General Authorities, Regional Representatives, and other priesthood leadership, 7 Feb. 1985
"[BYU Police Officer Arnie] Lemmon said most Provo residents are religious and have a tendency to stigmatize discussion of sexual assault and sometimes to demonize the survivor."
"[The Mormon rape victim] said something that blew me away. She said, 'I should have died before I let him do that to me,' " Lemmon said. "I was troubled that she had to believe that."
"Lemmon read from a letter written by a BYU rape victim who shared a similar belief. "I'm a perversion to the good saints of my church," wrote the victim, who said she wished she were dead. Tragic thoughts like these are common among rape victims in Provo, Lemmon said."
- Deseret Morning News, Friday, October 17, 2003, "90% of Provo rapes not reported to police,"
| I haven't watched conference for a few years now, but after reading some of your comments, I looked up the Holland and Scott talks.
It sounds like Mr. Scott has had a stroke or something. He's mumbling a lot more than I remember, and he mispronounced a few words. I especially liked the way he pronounced "Satan." Also, he hesitated a few times, and his facial expressions were sometimes out of sync with his words.
Shortly after launching into his porn rant, Scotty referred to something called a "teleforn." If that's what I think it is, I want one. ;-)
| Went to stake conference tofday with my wife as Elder Scott was the GA addending. It was a good conference except for some contradictions. At the end Elder Scott was surrounded by about 6 nicely dressed security people to escort him out of the building. These were hired security people I was told from the local federal gov't.
This was interesting because Elder Scott talked about how close he is to Christ and the Lord and then has to have a band of security people to excort him out of the building. What happened to faith that the Lord's prophet would be protected by the Lord?
Just an observation. No trust in the local Priesthood to protect the Elder Scott. Has to bring in the hired help and I bet these guys carried heat too.
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