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ELAINE S. DALTON
Elaine S. Dalton, President of the Mormon Young Women Organization. Elaine recently stated that young women should know their roles as mothers and should not lobby for their rights as women.
| Elaine S. Dalton: Young Women - "You Will Understand Your Roles And Your Responsibilities And Thus Will See No Need To Lobby For Rights" |
Monday, Jan 21, 2013, at 08:20 AM
Original Author(s): Oxymormon
Topic: ELAINE S. DALTON -Link To MC Article-
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| No need to lobby for rights?
"Young women you will be the ones who will provide the example of virtuous womanhood and motherhood. You will continue to be virtuous lovely praiseworthy and of good report. You will also be the ones to provide an example of family life in a time when families are under attack, being redefined and disintegrating. You will understand your roles and your responsibilities and thus will see no need to lobby for rights."
"Prophetic Priorities and Dedicated Disciples" - BYU Devotional - Elaine S. Dalton, YW General President, January 15, 2013.
http://byutv.org/watch/de1638f4-c3d1-... At approximately the 32:28 mark.
First of all, no. Our roles and responsibilities are as children of God, equal in the eyes of our Heavenly Parents, and if there is inequality in this world or denial of rights (which there are toward women.hate to break it to you) then we better be the first ones to lobby for those rights. Because we spend so much time teaching our young women about their individual worth and divine nature. What better way to prove those traits than to ensure they are treated equally in this world, and denied no rights?
Second of all, this was broadcast to parts of the world where honor killings are a thing, for example. And that makes me extremely uncomfortable. Because those women should absolutely be lobbying for rights.
Thirdly, how the heck is she getting away with saying that in UTAH.where people are FREAKING OUT about not being able to buy military grade weapons because it might take away their rights. And she's standing there and saying "Rights? Who need them! A daughter of God should be concerned with something so trivial as rights!"
In essence, I feel like this is saying "Ladies, just accept what you get." And it sounds eerily similar to the old anti-suffrage adage "Women-know your place." That is no way to go through life. That is no way to empower young women of this church, and of this world.
Elaine S. Dalton-I believe you were well intentioned, and perhaps you did not mean to imply what you did. But you need to realize your responsibility and position. Watch what you say. And if that quote ever gets handed to my daughters on some cute handout years from now in their Young Women's class, I will be furious. Out of my mind furious.
| Missions At 19 For Women And The Message Of Elaine Dalton: The One, Two Punch That Will Trap/Ruin Women For Generations |
Monday, Jan 21, 2013, at 10:09 AM
Original Author(s): Justbnme
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| My wife and I were discussing Elaine Dalton's talk this morning and reveling in the fact that our daughters (18, 9 and 6) will NEVER be brainwashed by this garbage. The thought occurred to me that the church has purposely staged the timing of women's "life events" as to trap them perpetually in the MORG.
Dalton said: "Young women you will be the ones who will provide the example of virtuous womanhood and motherhood. You will continue to be virtuous lovely praiseworthy and of good report. You will also be the ones to provide an example of family life in a time when families are under attack, being redefined and disintegrating. You will understand your roles and your responsibilities and thus will see no need to lobby for rights."
The message is a two fold good old fashioned manipulation of women: first, your job is to keep yourself, your husband and your kids nailed to the church, and second, you will stay at home, be a good molly mormon and have babies to raise in the church. Any other choice (career, travel, hobbies, interests outside the home) are not "praiseworthy or of good report". Choose ANYTHING other than what they prescribe for you as a woman and you have lost your virtue and denied your calling.
Now, with the age of missions at 19 for women, the timing to trap them in this life is perfectly set. Mission at age 19 and home at 20.5, which just happens to be six months after the boys get home. They are perfectly brainwashed by the mission and can't wait to start the glossy "eternal family" and get married and carry out their calling as wife and mother. No time for education; you have to work to put your husband thru four years of college because he did NOTHING prior to his mission. No time for travel or to experience life outside the confines of TSCC.
The number of educated women in the church will drop precipitously in the coming years.
Trapped. Perpetually. Perfectly.
| I used to be that sweet, lovely young woman that Elaine speaks of (perhaps not quite so virtuous, though ;-)
And then I grew up.
The trouble is, sweet, lovely, etc. will only carry a woman so far in the workplace and in life. A woman also has to cultivate an inner toughness and an ability to persevere. She has to develop a certain degree of shrewdness about people and a certain degree of street smarts. Otherwise, she will be everyone's doormat.
A whole, functioning woman doesn't need to be sweet all the time any more than a man needs to be sweet all the time. To suggest that women need to be as Ms. Dalton sees them is to want women to be cartoon characters -- two dimensional and incomplete. That way of thinking wants to keep women in perpetual childhood.
I don't think for a minute that the Mormon pioneer women would have made it across the ocean and over the prairie without a generous measure of toughness.
Ms. Dalton is attempting to lead young women down a narrow, unfulfilling, and unproductive path.
| A while back, a group called the Feminist Mormon Housewives (and the award for most contradictory and odd group name goes to.) challenged the unwritten rule in Mormon society that women should wear dresses to church (see: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wwjtd/20...). There was backlash from the Mormon community and now, in response, the LDS General Young Women's President, Elaine S. Dalton, has given a speech in which she argues that women have no need to lobby for rights.
Here's the money clip from that talk, along with some pictures of heretical women. Strange how badass heresy often looks.
"Young women you will be the ones who will provide the example of virtuous womanhood and motherhood. . You will understand your roles and your responsibilities and thus will see no need to lobby for rights."
Elaine S Dalton, Jan 15, 2013
The whole speech is here (http://byutv.org/watch/de1638f4-c3d1-...), with this comment coming in at approximately the 32:28 mark
What a despicable position it is that being "praise-worthy" amounts to not standing up for yourself. It is the wet dream of every abuser that those around them will swallow that lie.
This is not one person saying something stupid. This is part of the Mormon culture of which they are proud, not ashamed. And in the words of the former prophet, who told us men to treat women as possessions, in April 2007 Gordon B. Hinckley said to the General Conference during its priesthood session:
"Husbands, love and treasure your wives. They are your most precious possessions."
During the 2006 priesthood session, Hinckley also expressed that men should be concerned if a woman is overly educated, more than her man.
"Young women are exceeding young men in pursuing educational programs. And so I say to you young men, rise up and discipline yourselves to take advantage of educational opportunities. Do you wish to marry a girl whose education has been far superior to your own?"
Or as Spencer W. Kimball, the twelfth president and prophet of the Mormon church said.
"[Women], you are to become a career woman in the greatest career on earth - that of homemaker, wife, and mother. It was never intended by the Lord that married women should compete with men in employment. They have a far greater and more important service to render." (Spencer W. Kimball, Ensign, June 1975, and From Faith Precedes the Miracle)
I could go on all day.
"Too many mothers work away from home to furnish sweaters and music lessons and trips and fun for their children. Too many women spend their time in socializing, in politicking, in public services when they should be home to teach and train and receive and love their children into security" (Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, p. 319).
Ezra Taft Benson, the 9th president of the Mormon church, gave us lots of gems (handed straight to him by the inerrant god of the cosmos, of course):
"In the beginning, Adam-not Eve-was instructed to earn the bread by the sweat of his brow. Contrary to conventional wisdom, a mother's calling is in the home, not in the market place."
Ezra Taft Benson, To the Mothers in Zion, 1987.
It's not just from their prophets, it's in their doctrinal sources.
"[a] woman's primary place is in the home, where she is to rear children and abide by the righteous counsel of her husband"
McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 844.
It is this kind of nonsense where women merely asking for the right to pray at general assembly is an enormous controversy, and the pinnacle of progressive thought in the Mormon church.
Some friends send each other flowers. Back in the day, my friends had a habit of getting online and sending Mormon missionaries to my door for me to chew up. They always told me how good Mormonism was for its adherents and how abiding by god's rules, as delivered by their book and their prophets, made for a world much better than one built upon human reason and compassion alone. I think that may be one of the most egregious falsehoods I've ever encountered. Mormonism is a dehumanizing idea that turns otherwise compassionate men into bullies and fosters inequality, all while lavishing both as "praise-worthy".
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